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For some time now there have been calls from the community for an Infrared Gallery as it's becoming a popular technique and often there is confusion over where the work actually belongs. The powers that be have been listening and have decided that it would be really useful to have your feedback as to where this Gallery should go. At the moment, Infrared Photographs are spread across the Photography Galleries from Animals, Plants and Nature to Miscellaneous.

What is Infrared Photography?


gilad explained it quite succinctly over seven years ago now in this journal. Infrared Photography (or IR) shows a magical, thermal type effect of a world that, without specific filters or applications, appears quite normal. It can be achieved using a filter on specific D-SLR cameras or it can be achieved with special films in Analog. This clear technique division and ever-increasing market for IR Photography means that we need your views on where the Gallery should go.

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:bulletblack: The Infrared Gallery could become a sub-category of Photography. So your infrared work would belong in:
-Photography -> Infrared

:bulletblack: Or, because the technique can be achieved using darkroom skills and processes, your work could belong as an extension of the darkroom category. So your infrared work would belong in:
-Photography -> Darkroom -> Infrared

You might have a completely different idea - your thoughts and feedback are much appreciated! Please share with us what you believe would work best.

Sub-Categories


Once the location of the infrared gallery has been decided we also need your thoughts and feedback on whether sub-categories are required and if so, which ones would be utilized the best. Sub-categories need to be minimal, and my view is that there would not need to be many if there are any at all.

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:iconphostructor:
Phostructor Featured By Owner May 19, 2015
Hallelujah! At last! Just a sub cat of Photography, please!
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IntermissionNexus Featured By Owner May 18, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I think its a great idea, since its a combination of in camera and post processing it doesn't really fit in the existing categories, and I'd love to see a Photography -->Infrared as a category. Perhaps subdivided "black and white" and "false color." Just my 2 cents.
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IgorVladi Featured By Owner May 15, 2015
"Photography->Infrared"!
Great idea!
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systemcat Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Professional General Artist
What about Full Spectrum Photography? That isn't very acknowledged, it looks cool, and it's been around for a while.
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Okavanga Featured By Owner May 14, 2015
Interesting that this question should arise again, and that what would appear from an organisational and technical point of view for DA would seem trivial, has not, in fact, been done. I suspect it is that only a small number of members are involved is the reason, yet there was a folder for stereoscopy created not so long ago - another niche technique. I suggest that the admin and members of :iconr72: and :iconinfrared-club: get together and submit a "Suggestion" backed up by not only our two Groups and as many members as we can muster, but also by any other Groups we know to have IR Photography folders.

The description of IR photography given above and the technique as described by gilad are fine, but in the interim infrared photography has moved on. I suggest that a simple yet accurate description of Infrared (IR) Photography is: that form of photography that uses solely or predominantly the inrfared portion of the light spectrum to create images on photographic film or on digital sensors. Creative development of such images is open to many different techniques, including monochrome and artefactual colour processes, and is under the control of the photographer.
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mIkeschwaRz Featured By Owner May 15, 2015
Agree with David...
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Okavanga Featured By Owner May 25, 2015
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feigenfrucht Featured By Owner May 1, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Hi dear Kathryn, I was pointed to this questionair by MichiLauke. Was there made already a decision?. If not, I would also prefer Photography -> Infrared. The reason is, that it is not only a technique of editing like in the Darkroom category but is a kind of photography with special filters/camera functions. And most all photographies are re-edited by software like PS, Gimp, ....  :-) 
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:iconokavanga:
Okavanga Featured By Owner May 14, 2015
Hi - I've put a comment above and wonder whether Abstract-and-Surreal would support the "Suggestion" idea?
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:iconfeigenfrucht:
feigenfrucht Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I've made a comment here and get a feedback, so it's up to dA as the official are informed about this suggestion - nothing more to do for me :-)
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Okavanga Featured By Owner May 14, 2015
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
No decision, i passed on everyone's feedback some time ago : )
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:iconfeigenfrucht:
feigenfrucht Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks a lot for your information :-)
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:iconmichilauke:
MichiLauke Featured By Owner May 1, 2015   Photographer
Hey Kaz, this fine discussion should be continued may be on top level of dA. There can't be big problems to implement the idea Photography -> Infared? Cheers Michael
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner May 2, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Hi Michael, I passed on my thoughts on this to the people who would arrange such a thing and it's in their hands now :) has been for some time!
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MichiLauke Featured By Owner May 2, 2015   Photographer
Very fine Kathy, thank you so much for your support in this matter all the time :squee-love: - PLZ 
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sorny Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hmm, our own infrared gallery, sounds great but I'am afraid that just one category like "Photography -> Infared" would do it.

I mean now I am using "Photography -> Abstract & Surreal -> Surreal" to get the category right.
For me even a subcategory in "Abstract & Surreal" would do it, if "Abstract" and "Surreal" would become independent categories.

To sum it up: "Photography -> Surreal -> Infrared" would be my favorite!
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calanjackal Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Professional Photographer
My thoughts on this have been a little torn. I do like the idea on the surface, but I think that to me, or at least my future goals with infrared photography, it's not just about the infrared itself that defines the image. I like the idea of an infrared category, but personally I think many of my photos, with some exceptions, would end up in other categories. Because to me the infrared is a tool that's used and secondary to the subject, and is not the subject itself. This isn't always -completely- the case, so an infrared category would still be a very nice thing to have as long as it's still fine to post infrared images in other categories where they also fit based on the subject matter.

As far as the category itself, I really don't think it should be under darkroom. Infrared film and darkroom is the exception any more. A vast majority of infrared photography isn't film, but digital.

As far as subcategories, the subject can be just as various as with non-infrared photography. If I was forced to pick a few, I'd have a landscapes category, trees and plants, maybe something for man-made objects like buildings and such, and "other." That's at least my first thoughts on it.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for your feedback :)
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svonvanity Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
I vote for Photography -> Infared
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks!
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svonvanity Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012
No problem.
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dgcdvaras Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It should be: Photography -> Infrared
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks!
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jeje62 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012
for me : Photography -> Infrared

Because infrared is not only a "darkroom effect" but a fully style, who need to think in "infrared" on shoot

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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent thanks!
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:iconmichilauke:
MichiLauke Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012   Photographer
You still have this in mind?

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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Of course :)
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MichiLauke Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012   Photographer
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Earthymoon Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm honestly ok with either taxonomy. :D
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Earthymoon Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can barely contain myself!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :bounce:
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Starlit-Sorceress Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
I love seeing infrared photography, so this folder needs to happen!

My only comment is that I think "Photography -> Infrared" makes a lot more sense than "Photography -> Darkroom -> Infrared" because not everyone who takes infrared photos uses a darkroom, and so they would be forced to mis-categorize no matter where they put their non "darkroomed" infrared photo.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent thank you!
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virtualgadjo Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012
hi,
as nearly everything can be achieved darkroom side, keep it simple :) photography -> infrared
by the way, i take the opportunity to say that "keep it simple" could be a motto for a lot of categories, for example, why is landscape a sub category of animals, plat and nature ? landscape very often mixes nature and architecture and could be a category by itself
another idea would be the ability to submit to, say, two categories when needed, e.g, landscape and infrared, landcape and hdr, one for the subject, one for the technique or style (landscape or portraiture and BW) i think it would simplify the researches
just my two cents :) so, photography -> infrared
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the feedback!:)
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:iconvirtualgadjo:
virtualgadjo Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012
my pleasure :)
i'm eager to see what's coming with the new infrared category!
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Urceola Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Though no expert, I did shoot one roll of black and white infrared with my Nikon F5. I had to buy special film, keep it dark and cool, borrow a darkroom at the Library of Congress's Photo Lab ( the darkrooms have since been ripped out to make room for digital set-ups), load the film in complete darkness, go on a photo shoot (the only fun part except getting the pictures back a month later), go back to the L of C darkroom (I have friends in the Photo (now Digital) Studio there), unload the film in complete darkness and then go across town to a special camera store that would develop it for me. SO! Analog infra-red is DIFFERENT from digital infra-red. Period. Thus, let's have: Photography -> Infrared for digital and -Photography -> Darkroom -> Infrared for analog, or film.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the feedback!
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:iconaraka13:
Araka13 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I really love the idea, my vote would go to : Photography -> Infrared.
To be honest I'm not too sure if we really would need sub-categories for it, as it might confuse people. However if it is decided to implement sub-categories I agree with you, we should stick with only a few, like white-based and colour-based.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for your thoughts :)
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:iconaraka13:
Araka13 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Not a problem
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:iconwayman:
Wayman Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Photography -> Infrared.

Thank you for listening to us :hug:
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks!
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NickSpiker Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Professional Photographer
FYI, IR is not achieved by anything done in a darkroom, in fact, most, if not all photographic paper used in the darkroom is not affected by IR.
And, as we all know, most IR done now is with digital due to the fact that silicon is far superior in sensitivity to IR than film, albeit there is some cool IR film out there.

Coming from a very experienced full spectrum photographer, my vote is something like Photography>Infrared/Ultraviolet
then
- People
- Landscapes
- Trees
- Plants/flowers
- Animals
- Towns
- Ultraviolet
- Miscellaneous

Hope that helps! [link]
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks muchly! :)
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mszafran Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
I vote for: Photography > Infrared
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks!
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dealived Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Student Photographer
I would prefer Photography->Infrared.
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