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It's All About Presentation (Mostly)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:17 AM
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As more and more people start taking pictures of their nether regions on their iphones or posing myspace style in front of their HTC's - the competitive world of getting a Daily Deviation gets just that much harder... :B I kid. But... daily, I am bombarded with awesome suggestions (which I love) and I'm not complaining about. But there has to be a criteria of sorts, that sets an image above the rest. Here are a few things I look for that you might not have noticed before... The first thing I look at when I stumble across an image or view a suggestion from somebody, is how the artist has presented their work to the deviantART Community.

Title


Your image isn't everything. Not anymore. In the past I have given Daily Deviations to pieces with titles that are a combination of random letters and numbers, or that are very obviously still the source file title - or that tends to be just a keyboard mash-up. Everyday CVs are sent many many notes suggesting pieces of work for Daily Deviations. The fact is that we cannot feature more than one piece a day.  So when I'm looking carefully at the things that are sent my way, I will begin to narrow it down by how someone has chosen to present their work.

Here's an example of what not to do... You may have a really fantastic macro shot of the inside of a flower - but you've titled it Crappy Flower Thing . Am I going to DD it? No. Probably not.

Have you ever seen the Freshly Pressed Page on Wordpress? The blogs they choose to feature every day on their front page get hundreds of hits, comments and follows. Sort of like a DD no? Well they don't just look at the content, or the images. The title of the blog and the title of the blog entry has to work too. Calling your work, Fucking awesome sunset dude might seem amusing at the time, but won't land you any brownie points in the great scheme of Daily Deviation Selections.

Artist Comments


Feel free to look through my gallery and find all the pieces where I've done all the 'don't s' that I'm about to list. I don't care. I have flaws! Nobody is perfect!!!!! Anyway, have you come across an absolutely breath-taking landscape that exudes exotic location, beautiful tones and wonderful scenery? I have. Have you scrolled down, and down, to the artists comments bursting with the desire to find out where this place that must be heaven - is? I have. Have you been confronted with nothing more, nothing less, than a simple but thoughtfully positioned full stop? Such as this - . ? YES. You have haven't you. How annoying IS that? I find it often whilst browsing the food gallery in still life photography. Because I like food. I find this amazing dish that looks so exquisite and yummy and tasty and -get-in-my-stomach-now- but there's NOTHING in the artists comments. Nothing at all. It's empty. There's no description of what the food is, whether the artist made it and no goddamn recipe. Those awesome chocolatey looking brownie biscuit cakey things could be baked dog turd for all we know. Do you understand where I'm coming from? It's frustrating, as a normal deviant -  but it's doubly frustrating as a Community Volunteer when looking to give Daily Deviations.

Art Theft


As a Photography CV, I don't just give a Daily Deviation to an awesome piece of work. I check thoroughly to see whether a piece is stolen. I run it through search image everywhere checkers, I check meta-data, I check the title and see if any other similar pieces are online - I check your gallery to see if the rest of your work fits in with this awesome godly masterpiece. I find out where you live and... Okay you get the picture. None of us wish to give a daily deviation to a stolen piece of work - we all check these things as much as we can. So there are things you can do to make your work more favourable to our eyes.

:bulletblack: Metadata - include it. We like to know whether a shot was feasible on the technical data that you submit with your work. If it's not included automatically in the stats on your deviation page because you've used some fancy software then do us a favour and write a bit about it in the artist comments. Shutter speed, type of camera, time of year taken, season, time of day, aperture, focal length - lens...give us all your loving!

:bulletblack: Location - we don't need to know your full address inclusive of postal code. But it's nice for you to share which part of the world your photo was taken in. That lovely couple tying the knot on a beach is blatantly not Southampton docks in the South of England. Just no. We like to know that you've been to Bali or Hawaii to shoot portraits - we like to be jealous as we scour your gallery for daily deviations! Sharing a location, giving a bit of background behind a shot, makes it more personal to you.

:bulletblack: History - taking a still life shot of a pocket watch is nice. But where did you get it? How long have you had it? Is it a family heirloom or something you found at a market? It's okay to get a bit chatty about where your objects came from. Sadly, if you stole them then you're not likely to get a daily deviation, but it's good to be honest too right?

:bulletblack: Outtakes & Behind the Scenes - Getting critical of your work in a joky and positive way is fun and is something everyone should do. Therefore consider showing shots in the artists comments, where it all went wrong. Give us an insight into the behind the scenes of the whole set up. Let us know what you cursed, and what you really liked. Share with us some tips and hints. Ultimately, comment in the artist comments.

What else?


Your work has to stand out. It really does. It's a cliche and everyone says it, but it's true. Be unique, be creative and be awesome. For more information on who to send your suggestions to check out communityrelations

A short and hopefully useful guide on how to present your photography on deviantART including some of the things that Community Volunteers look for in titles and other information - when choosing Daily Deviations. Comment/Fav - share your thoughts and feedback!
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Sarah-BK Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It's true! I get so frustrated when there's no metadata - I like having a look at what settings and equipment were used for that shot!

I also LOVE descriptions which tell you about that particular photograph - although it may mean so many words in itself, it's nice to be accompanied by a few more :meow: Same for the title - one of the things I can't stand are titles which are just numbers (and their whole gallery is just numbered deviations...).

Nicely written, I fully agree with all! :D
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you! :D
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Itti Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What I hate most of all is when someone asks me to comment on something, and I get there and the artist's comments section is blank.

Wait, what? You can't be bothered to write a sentence or two of comment on YOUR OWN WORK, and you expect me to spend 30-40 minutes of my time writing a long and detailed comment on your artwork? Why on earth should I bother?!
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Kendra-Paige Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012   Photographer
This article has been featured here: [link] :heart:
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you!
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Chronophontes Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome! I'm working on a journal of my own, inspired by this one, specifically about artist's comments, because those "."'s are a pet peeve of mine.
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent! Do link me when you're done so i can promote it :)
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Chronophontes Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to! Here it is: [link]
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
also thanks for the insight in the article
was interesting to read!
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Welcome!
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012
:)
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
i may be a pain the back here
but

if you are saying you got SOOOOOOO many suggestions to pick from

then shouldnt be the first thing that excludes art suggestions
wether someone has ahd an DD allready ????

honestly that bothers me some how
(and yes i know theres a 6month rule)

i made some suggestions in the past and gave up (all from artists that are rather not known and still have - even accidently - created grreat pieces)
and i so often see great art in DD from people that had several DDs over time
it annoys me
because while the art is surely great
those people have dozens of watchers and thousands of pageviews
and other people make great art too, so

why not support the less known?

why that aint the first priority to find out??

mmph
alittle bothered i am.... sorry bout that

wish you a good day anyways
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hi :)
I certainly try and feature those who have had less or no DDs than others. However if an artist is varied - say for example they have amazing portrait work, and amazing landscapes work, and they have a DD for their portraiture and not for their landscape = I might consider DD'ing them again. If they have lots of amazing portraiture, but that's fairly similar in style, then I would incline towards not DD'ing them more than once. :) If that makes sense. I feel people deserve recognition for diverse talents, and I stand by that decision firmly. But I totally get what you're saying about those who have loads - it's a frustration of many, but the popular and the lesser known deserve Daily Deviations just as much as anyone in between :)
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012
isee
thanks for the answer
i understand your point
i even would think alike (if it wasnt about >too many suggestions per day<)

i just made it some kind of numbers game
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if too many are there
then
first check for equal quality
then
make first priority
to check
if DD allready
if so
give DD to other
(of equal quality)
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but on a feel level
i completely agree with you

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threedayweekend Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012   Writer
:iconrobocop: It's all about presentation? Really? I respect no one who believes that. It's all about content. Shakespeare written in a concentrated monkey piss ink on the back of candy wrappers would mean more than all the makeup-editing applied in the style you suggest. No true artist would say this. Presentation is relevant only to the ignorant masses.
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Cr2O3 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
also i think she was solely refering to the possibity of getting a DD.
i think she was writing from the perspective of a CV.

plus its interesting to get an outside view on how the art-presentation can be made more appealing
(which says nothing about the art itself; it still has to be good)
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Did you miss the 'mostly' in the title? :B
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LadyBeelze Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
xDDD the name of this made me think of the megamind movie about villains and supervillains 8D

very interesting journal :)
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
Thank you!
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AliquidLucis Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
I absolutely agree with you. It's so annoying when you come across a picture and then ... an empty space. No artist comment. That's sad. :(
But you soooo made my day with the I find out where you live and...! Priceless! :XD:
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
:D
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012   General Artist
This is a great article! Thanks for writing it. :D

I'm working on a similar article discussing how Artist's Descriptions can make a piece more or less attractive to viewers. Would you mind if I linked to this article in my Artist's Description? :)
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Of course not :)
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aegiandyad Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
If I can get the title to 'say it all' then artist's notes may be redundant, but I usually like to write something informative. I do think an apposite title and notes add value to a work. I Photoshop nearly everything as it's a rare photo that can't be improved, but usally that leaves the camera data intact. I've made no great secret of the processes I use.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:nod: :)
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kamon159 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Agreed!
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:w00t:
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seekwithin Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Student Photographer
Thank you for sharing this valuable information.
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:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
No problem! :)
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ArtsyFartsyGirl2936 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I always enjoy looking at Daily Deviations, I really like the simple criteria you've set up here for what you look for in an Artist. I am always put off by sad titles to wonderful work and the dreaded empty artist comment section (though truth be told I have been guitly of one sentence descriptions) I like to see people's processes and thoughts on their work and learn more about the beautiful piece they've created. I do hope one day, it will be a shock but to have a Daily Deviation honor, that would be more than awesome...but there are many wonderful unrecognized work that deserve it more than mine! Haha "Baked Dog Turds" They are my favorite! JK
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:lol:
:D my favourite too! :D
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ArtsyFartsyGirl2936 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
LOL
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
All the points you covered can be applied to do many other areas of art :D but especially the artist comments section! It's so important to be able to talk about your work as an artist and not to only leave it up to viewers interpretations! Titles are important too! Untitled is the most cliche and over used title of all time (other than the obnoxious ones that you mentioned)
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh definitely :nod:
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WindsweptSpirit Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That section of the artist's comments. So true. It makes me want to watch the world burn when I see a deviation I like and the only thing in the comments is "..." or a keyboard smash. Say, have you (or any of the CVs) ever featured a work that turned out to be a stolen piece? What happens then?
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It gets removed :)
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darchala Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
I find this kind of sad, in all honesty. The art really should stand alone as far as judgment goes. And if it IS a baked dog turd, shouldn't you give them some extra credit for managing to make it look good? ;p

Maybe photography is different, but by the time I finish an involved piece, I tend to be so sick of having my attention on it that filling up the artist's comments box is the absolute last thing I want to do.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
If someone can make dog turd look edible well, awesome :D

Don't get me wrong, art stands alone so much of the time - but there are small touches that show the artist actually cares about uploading it for the world to see.

But I totally get what you're saying :nod:
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capencom Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
AMEN
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:)
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PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Student General Artist
I find out where you live and...
I swear that made my day. :)
True. Presentation HELPS GREATLY. I mean, I see this awesome work, and then poof. I like the picture, but then what, nothing? It really trolls. This is for every kind of deviation. Every kind.
Thanks for the heads up to all~
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D Now you know my secrets :P
:D
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angelichope Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
This was very helpful, even though I don't do photography, I can apply this to my writings!!
Very good!!!:heart::):heart:
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent!!!
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angelichope Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2012
:hug:
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Magical525 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I too hate empty or almost empty descriptions - especially for Artisan Crafts - I want to know what it's made of - how you made it and if you spent hours unstitching something.
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh yes! Definitely in that area in particular!
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Magical525 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:)
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TinyFurrTails Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
that's helpful! will influence my next batch of photos :) now I need to go figure out metadata....
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Kaz-D Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent! Good luck!
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