Shop Mobile More Submit  Join Login

Why you feature stolen work?!?!

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 9:01 AM
Lately there seem to have been a few myths flying around in particular with regards to how we as Community Volunteers, give Daily Deviations. Many people seem to think that we sit at our desks in dark little rooms and let out evil laughter whilst we purposefully feature stolen work. The dark rooms and laughter - well I can't say yes or no on that one! But I can promise you it's not our intent to give exposure to people who have stolen work. I recently featured a piece of work that turned out to be stolen. However I went into extensive conversations with the artist before I featured it, and with added metadata and dates, it's difficult to know where to draw the line. I've given people the benefit of the doubt before - and it's worked out nicely as their work has been legitimate. Below are some comments I have seen being thrown around the past few days - and hopefully an attempt to bust the myth.

"I thought at least that you people would check to make sure the work was theirs before giving it a DD!"
We always run the images we choose through several image checkers. If then, things are thrown up that are suspicious, I often contact the artist to try and figure out the where's and whys. I do this, because sometimes the artist deserves the benefit of the doubt. If they provide me with dates, metadata and more background information, then I like to put my trust in them.

"My faith in deviantART has been DESTROYED."
deviantART is a huge site that does a lot for many people. It's an Art Community, and just like any community, things go wrong and things get stolen. Your faith in this website could not have been very strong if it was destroyed simply by something being featured and later proven to be stolen. The Daily Deviations are not completely what deviantART exists for, so to let something like that effect you so much is incredibly sad.


"I haven't got a DD, yet a stolen picture has..."

If, and it's rare, but IF a piece of work gets featured as a DD and is later proven to be stolen, the admins of the site take it down. I appreciate that sometimes this is a long process, it doesn't always happen instantly a report goes in - these things take time. There has NEVER been a Photography piece of work left up with a Daily Deviation award, if it has been proven to be art theft.  Rest assured, the piece gets taken down. As for the actual comment complaining that a stolen picture gets a DD but the particular commenter doesn't - well that's all dependent on work and so on. You can have faith that a stolen piece of work was not DELIBERATELY featured.

"You shouldn't be a CV anymore you're rubbish."
Imagine taking on a voluntary role, making a minor mistake (especially within your first few weeks as many including me have done) and then a handful of people that you've never even come across in the role before start making noises and calling for you to stop what you're doing because you are rubbish. No matter how thick skinned a person is, it can still hurt. People stating this in conjunction with a stolen DD being featured are unreasonable. They also are very unlikely to know the extent of what the CV does. Many people see my name on the Daily Deviation page and assume that it's all I do whilst sitting on deviantART. We're actually real people for starters, we give a lot of our time to the website and Daily Deviations are often the easier task we do whilst going about volunteer duties.

:heart:

Add a Comment:
 
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:hug:
Reply
:iconsouthrobin:
Southrobin Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
:glomp:
Reply
:iconsouthrobin:
Southrobin Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
:hug:
At times, I wonder about the quality of the dds given though- /gets hit with rotten tomatoes
Reply
:iconpizzapotatonbacon:
PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Student General Artist
Amazing article ^-^
Well, I've never suggested a DD (because I don't really know how high quality is to be honest), and I guess if I did, I'd have to try and check if the work was stolen just not to cause drama.
Anyway, I'll just fave this and maybe feature it in a Journal, perhaps?
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
That'd be awesome. But if you find something send it my way, I'll always let you know yes or no :)
Reply
:iconhollymist:
Hollymist Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have to say, sometimes it's easy to forget that there are real people with real lives behind deviantArt, and this was a pleasant reminder to be considerate of all of them. I agree with everything said, and it really does seem like the dA CVs take their work seriously, which I, and I'm sure all of us, appreciate greatly :nod:

(and I would love to see a picture of that dark room and evil laughter xD)
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I might take the picture one day ;)
:hug: thank you :)
Reply
:iconmiontre:
miontre Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
This is a really good article, and I agree with you completely. :nod:

A while ago someone set up an account and stole work from another artist on dA. Within three weeks, the thief account got a DD. I tried reporting it but nothing was done. :shrug: I contacted the artist on her actual account, but she could barely read or understand English. I tried to help her contact the Help Desk, but she couldn't figure it out; and she just gave up. :shrug: I've just noticed recently that the thief account got a second DD.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Can you let me know via note what the account is? :o
Reply
:iconitti:
Itti Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Did people tell you you were rubbish? :noes: How nasty! You and all the other CVs do such a great job. Most of us know that. Ignore the idiots!
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Aye sometimes it comes with the territory :D
Reply
:iconditto9:
ditto9 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Wait...but I sat in a dark room laughing a lot :noes:
CVs go through a lot of pressure, but they're not Gods. We all make human mistakes from time to time, people should learn to forgive~
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:lol: your secrets only ;)
Reply
:iconevilvampireducky:
EvilVampireDucky Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Everyone really needs to calm down and get their heads out of their asses; I think the only person who has a real right to be upset is the original artist and perhaps those that recognize the style.

I myself look at daily deviations very little or not at all; I'd rather find artwork I personally like than look at what others like.

Though, I do hope the original image(if on deviantart) was given their rightful daily deviation.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:hug:
Reply
:iconmattsykun:
MattsyKun Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Shit happens. The community needs to calm their tits and realize that everyone's human, and everyone makes mistakes. Nobody's perfect.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:hug:
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:nod:
Reply
:iconswe3twhispers:
Swe3tWhispers Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
wow Everyone try and get along, I am sure all things are not meant mistakes do happen, Be kind and ask or explain before jumping in the fire. you get alot done just asking than ranting,
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
Reply
:iconjazzds:
Jazzds Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student General Artist
Really? This community need to chill the fuck out. Mistakes happen and I'm pretty sure the people that were upset with you have a ton of flaws wrong with them that if someone pointed them out, they would bitch about themselves being perfect....

If they want to lose faith in the site, it should be cause of them being dipshits...
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed!
Reply
:iconphotofairy:
photofairy Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   General Artist
:hug: try not to worry about rude people, they have no clue how it is to have responsibility, all they know is how to criticise.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:hug:
Reply
:iconanyura:
Anyura Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I didn't even think about this topic before... Thanks for this article!

I must say I'm a bit shocked by the idea of (accidently) featuring stolen art... but I know what fuss it is to do the research.
And for the persons complaining... I mean they are acting very immature, like they never have done a mistake themselves.
You, the volunteers, the staff are just human beings. You aren't perfect and sometimes you make mistakes. It's completely normal.

So you have all my support on this, I think you're doing a great job. In your free time, without getting paid.
Don't let negative comments bring you down. ;)

:hug:
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
You're welcome! Thanks for the support :)
Reply
:iconmyemeraldtears:
MyEmeraldTears Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Some people are so stupid. I'm honestly sorry for what you had to go through. Calling you rubbish for a simple mistake, they are the pieces of trash, honestly.
Well, the rest of dART thinks you did a wonderful job handling this, and I would like to see those who criticized you do better. Don't worry, for every person out there who said you did something wrong, there is at least 100 people who think you did it right.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
Reply
:iconcakecrumbs:
cakecrumbs Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
You mean the CVs aren't given psychic powers along with their titles? :giggle:
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
YES we're just not allowed to talk about them :fear:
Reply
:iconcakecrumbs:
cakecrumbs Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Your secret is safe with me. :nod:
Reply
:icontimidfawn:
TimidFawn Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You are right. You have to know the person and their art to know if its been stolen. You arent a god.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
Reply
:iconbottled-mermaid:
bottled-mermaid Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
You have all my support :hug:
I understand that people may get angry if stolen works receive a DD, but blaming CVs for this is truly unfair. As you said, there are millions of good artworks on dA, and monitoring every artist is really impossible. Plus some thieves are smart enough to crop/cut the original artist's signature/watermark and add their own...and this makes everything even more messy.
I think all Deviants who check DDs can give their contribute by finding thieves and stolen works and by reporting them to CVs. There's nothing to be angry/disappointed with, because no one can prevent art thief to happen...we should collaborate, instead, and help staff members in finding stolen arts :)
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you :)
Reply
:icongee-ell-bee:
gee-ell-bee Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student General Artist
Out of curiosity, which image was stolen?
And I don't think it's fair that you're being blamed for something like this, I find it rather sad that people are finding time in their days to criticise you and all the mods of DA over something so minor.. Hm, rant over.
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Ah it's long gone now, so I can't link it i'm afraid. :heart:
Reply
:icongee-ell-bee:
gee-ell-bee Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student General Artist
Ah, that's fine, merely my curiosity taking over me, haha~ ;A;
Reply
:iconricardo-bruins:
ricardo-bruins Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hey with so many stuff on deviantart its just a matter of time. You cant know all the works and cant check it all...... so whats the big deal if a stolen one slips through and gets a DD! As long as deviantart removes it when they do find out.

And well if the original one is also on deviantart then i think deviantart should give the DD to the original work of art / artist.

And while you guys are at it.... give one to me also :-) ...please:-) hahaha
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:heart:
Reply
:iconricardo-bruins:
ricardo-bruins Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:-)
Reply
:icontamarviewstudio:
TamarViewStudio Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   Photographer
It's hard for me to understand why people get so worked up about something like this. I know no one would ever feature an image if they knew for certain that it was stolen, or even the possibility that it wasn't legit.

You guys do a great job and if a mistake happens, well then it happens. No one is perfect but it's how you handle the situation :)
It's saddens me a little to see this though... Not because you wrote it but because you felt the need to write it. People need to chill and stop taking their frustrations out on the volunteers and staff.

:heart:
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:hug: indeed :)
Reply
:iconitsnotfilia:
ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, most people are simply oblivious to the mechanism 'behind the scenes', or the possibility that they, themselves, could be wrong (for various reasons, sometimes more than one); they are also mentally young. :p
Reply
:iconxternal7:
xTernal7 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
On the other hand, featuring a potentially stolen image as a DD is a very sure way of discovering art theft...
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Ah yes :D
Reply
:iconclu-art:
Clu-art Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The last one is crazy. People tend to overreact...
Reply
:iconkaz-d:
Kaz-D Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:D
Reply
:iconclu-art:
Clu-art Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:wave:
Reply
:iconsuraii:
Suraii Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
"You shouldn't be a CV anymore you're rubbish."
(for anyone that might care, read that part of the journal before reading my response here).
If you take on a role as a volunteer and then think that everything will be like a fairy tale, everyone loves what you do, everyone is grateful for what you do, then you're really naive.
It doesn't matter if it's on the internet or in real life, volunteers takes on a quiet big workload, not physical but emotional.(I hope that you don't think in such manners, but hey it might be true).

Because as you state "People stating this in conjunction with a stolen DD being featured are unreasonable. They also are very unlikely to know the extent of what the CV does." that they don't know anything, that they don't understand the difficulty of being a CV is, because of that you set yourself up as target practice.

Why?

Well because that statement is obviously naive, and you most likely didn't think it through with that one, right? Because truth to be told, I find it highly likely that some of them do understand, some do know what kind of job a CV is. Food for thought, "you might have vast knowledge, but everyone else knows more then you can imagine."
Reply
Add a Comment:
 
×

:iconkaz-d: More from Kaz-D


Featured in Collections

CR Related by KovoWolf

News and Journals by Daghrgenzeen

Journals News by rydi1689


More from DeviantArt



Details

Submitted on
December 5, 2012
Submitted with
Sta.sh Writer
Link
Thumb

Stats

Views
9,877
Favourites
117 (who?)
Comments
389
×